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steve stevens or senior advisor for middle east initiatives. he has taught at columbia. he is extensively published, has also directed the center for democracy and civil studies and civil society at georgetown university. he is a terrific asset to the institute. this project is one that is driven by syria with assistance, technical assistance and other kinds of assistance from the institute and sister institution in germany. it is very important that these kinds of efforts be driven by local populations, things that are handed down from the united states that typically don't work all that well and so we are very pleased that you're all here. i hope you have lots of questions and steve if i could turn this over to you. >> thank you very much gem for opening this morning and let me add my welcome. we are delighted to see you while here this morning. it's going to be of very a very very interesting conversation about syria after assad and the challenges of managing a post-assad transition. as jim mentioned, this event this morning is in many ways the culmination of a projec
steve stevens or senior advisor for middle east initiatives. he has taught at columbia. he is extensively published, has also directed the center for democracy and civil studies and civil society at georgetown university. he is a terrific asset to the institute. this project is one that is driven by syria with assistance, technical assistance and other kinds of assistance from the institute and sister institution in germany. it is very important that these kinds of efforts be driven by local...
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story is getting a bid bit more clear thanks to a journal kept by chris stevens. james rosen that piece of the puzzle and reaction over its use. >> reporter: at issue here is a hard bound book containing seven pages of handwritten notes made by ambassador steens. cnn says correspondent found the journal on consulate grounds three days after the attack there. in his notes stevens reportedly expressed concern about never ending security threats and he was worried that he was placed on al-qaeda hit list. asked if he cabled back the concerns. state department that the f.b.i. is investigating however a former ambassador told fox news megyn kelly that the contents of the stevens journal may expose a failing to the approach to the region. >> i'm sure if he believed that security was a problem he would have informed the state department's diplomatic security bureau and should have taken the necessary steps. the fact that he and three other americans were killed by definition shows there was massive failure of security. >> reporter: at first cnn only cited an individual fa
story is getting a bid bit more clear thanks to a journal kept by chris stevens. james rosen that piece of the puzzle and reaction over its use. >> reporter: at issue here is a hard bound book containing seven pages of handwritten notes made by ambassador steens. cnn says correspondent found the journal on consulate grounds three days after the attack there. in his notes stevens reportedly expressed concern about never ending security threats and he was worried that he was placed on...
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it killed four americans including chris stevens. i'm i'll see you right here at 6:00 p.m. eastern on the fox news channel. >> paul: hillary clinton suggested that the consulate attack in benghazi involved the al-qaeda affiliate in north africa it was like will goly the work of the terrorist group. that admission led to many questions what took the administration so long with john mccain and lindsay graham issuing this statement. we recognize that al-qaeda involvement in the terrorist
it killed four americans including chris stevens. i'm i'll see you right here at 6:00 p.m. eastern on the fox news channel. >> paul: hillary clinton suggested that the consulate attack in benghazi involved the al-qaeda affiliate in north africa it was like will goly the work of the terrorist group. that admission led to many questions what took the administration so long with john mccain and lindsay graham issuing this statement. we recognize that al-qaeda involvement in the terrorist
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turkish media reports that two suspects have been detained in connection with the killing of ambassador stevens. nbc news has not independently confirmed that story. >>> later this morning, the september jobs report will be released. it will reportedly be better than august. let's go to jeff live in london. good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you. the problem is, the economy's just not adding jobs fast enough. we might see 118,000. that seems to be the consensus. but you know what? you need at least 125,000 to keep the equalibrium in the economy. this economy needs to find another 4.7 million jobs. that just isn't happening fast enough. that is a big deadweight around obama's neck when it comes to this election race here. probably just worth reflecting on why the federal reserve has said it is going to continue buying mortgage backed securities to the tune of $40 billion a month. it is all about that jobs number, and the fed's commitment to help the government try and get americans back to work here. worth also saying that even though they are optimistic about an improvement in this jobs
turkish media reports that two suspects have been detained in connection with the killing of ambassador stevens. nbc news has not independently confirmed that story. >>> later this morning, the september jobs report will be released. it will reportedly be better than august. let's go to jeff live in london. good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you. the problem is, the economy's just not adding jobs fast enough. we might see 118,000. that seems to be the consensus. but you...
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my job is to introduce steven heydemann. steve is the senior adviser for middle east initiative. he taught at colombia. he is published and directed if the senator for democracy and civil society at georgetown university. steve is terrific asset to the institute. the project is one that it driven by syrians. with assistance technical assistance and other kinds of assistance from the institute in a sister constitution in germany. it's very important that these kinds of efforts be driven by local populations. things that are handed down from the united states typical don't work all that well. and so we are very pleased that you're all here. i hope you have lots of questions. and steve, if i can turn this over to you. >> thank you very much. thank you very much for opening us this morning. and let me add my welcome to jim's we're delighted to see you here this morning. it's going to be a very, very interesting conversation about syria after assad and the challenges of managing a post assad transition. as jim mentioned, this event this morning is in many ways the cull min nation of a
my job is to introduce steven heydemann. steve is the senior adviser for middle east initiative. he taught at colombia. he is published and directed if the senator for democracy and civil society at georgetown university. steve is terrific asset to the institute. the project is one that it driven by syrians. with assistance technical assistance and other kinds of assistance from the institute in a sister constitution in germany. it's very important that these kinds of efforts be driven by local...
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ambassador stevens knew he was in danger. nothing was done by the obama white house. we will >> tonight, there is new informs on the ongoing coverup by the obama administration over the terror anac benghazi. the house oversight committee sent a letter to hillary clinton, demanding information on a long line of attacks on western diplomats and officials in libya in the months leading up to the september 11, 2012 attack. the committee has released images of the aftermath of the attacks. i will warn you,-these are very, very graphic. you are looking at pictures of just one of at least 13 documented security eveeps that took place in recent months, showing the aftermath of an attempted assassination on the british ambassador to libya in june, one block away from our benghazi consulate. the attacks led libyan security to request additional resources to the ambass dor. but the house has confirmed that the obama administration denied those requests and now ambassador chris stevens and three other americans, include it would go navy seals are dead. liz cheney is here this. ge
ambassador stevens knew he was in danger. nothing was done by the obama white house. we will >> tonight, there is new informs on the ongoing coverup by the obama administration over the terror anac benghazi. the house oversight committee sent a letter to hillary clinton, demanding information on a long line of attacks on western diplomats and officials in libya in the months leading up to the september 11, 2012 attack. the committee has released images of the aftermath of the attacks. i...
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the posting directed a threat against stevens. issa says stevens stopped his morning runs for about a week and then resumed them. in june, an ied was successfully placed at the u.s. consulate in benghazi, blowing a hole in the security perimeter gate, big enough for 40 people to go through. and in the weeks before the september 11th attacks, unarmed libyan guards working at the consulate were warned by family members to quit their jobs, because of, quote, rumors in the community of an impending attack. those are just a few of the 13 things that darrell issa listed. and he also included this major allegation. according to issa, multiple u.s. federal government officials have confirmed to the committee that prior to the september 11th attacks, the u.s. mission in libya made repeated requests for increased security in benghazi. the mission in libya, however, was denied these resources by officials in washington. the state department has responded to darrell issa's letter. here is spokeswoman victoria nuland. we are now working throug
the posting directed a threat against stevens. issa says stevens stopped his morning runs for about a week and then resumed them. in june, an ied was successfully placed at the u.s. consulate in benghazi, blowing a hole in the security perimeter gate, big enough for 40 people to go through. and in the weeks before the september 11th attacks, unarmed libyan guards working at the consulate were warned by family members to quit their jobs, because of, quote, rumors in the community of an impending...
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diplomatic mission in benghazi which killed ambassador stevens and three other americans grew out of a spontaneous demonstration against an anti-muslim video. the white house later reversed course and said it was a premeditated terrorist attack. david plouffe tried to clear up its inconsistency yesterday on "meet the press." >> information was being provided real time. obviously you're going to know more two weeks after an event and a week after an event and as ambassador rice -- that was the information from the intelligence community, provided for congress. the reason, obviously, we now have stipulated this is a terrorist attack is that came from the intelligence agencies. >> plouffe's comments after the director of national sbem generals released a mea culpa two days earlier saying it was the fault of the intelligence community and not the white house acknowledging its assessment was based on preliminary and evolving evidence. that explanation wasn't good enough for peter king, the top republican on the house homeland security committee who called for the resignation of u.n. ambas
diplomatic mission in benghazi which killed ambassador stevens and three other americans grew out of a spontaneous demonstration against an anti-muslim video. the white house later reversed course and said it was a premeditated terrorist attack. david plouffe tried to clear up its inconsistency yesterday on "meet the press." >> information was being provided real time. obviously you're going to know more two weeks after an event and a week after an event and as ambassador rice...
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ambassador stevens had one in benghazi. two navy seals were doing something else when they came to the defense of their fellow americans. they were not assigned to the ambassador. he had one person in an incredibly dangerous environment. >> so basically he was sitting duck? >> some of the reports we heard that the ambassador's position, his location was betrayed by the libyan security guard, loyal to terrorist outfit. it shows how bad it was. >> so so do you think the administration can be too trusting, there is freedom in libya, khadafy is gone and just think nothing like this would ever happen? >> absolutely. unfortunately it's probably true not only in the context of libya take the invasion of embassy in cairo where our flag was put up and al-qaeda flag was put up. egyptian government didn't fulfill its obligations but the embassy was sending out messages as we recall trying to appease the demonstrators. i think this mindset permeated the administration and the state department. i think that was one of reasons that our a
ambassador stevens had one in benghazi. two navy seals were doing something else when they came to the defense of their fellow americans. they were not assigned to the ambassador. he had one person in an incredibly dangerous environment. >> so basically he was sitting duck? >> some of the reports we heard that the ambassador's position, his location was betrayed by the libyan security guard, loyal to terrorist outfit. it shows how bad it was. >> so so do you think the...
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fbi has been trying to reach benghazi since the september 11th attack that killed ambassador chris stevens and three others. u.s. special forces provided security for yesterday's investigation. >>> late last night united nations security council unanimously approved a statement condemning syria's shelling of a turkish border town. five civilians were killed. the u.n. called on syria to respect the sovereignty of its neighbors. >>> if you're flying on american airlines today you may be in for a rough ride. american is cancelling dozens of its flights today as it works to fix seats. over the last week seats on three american flights came loose. american blames wear, poor design and spilled soda. seats are being removed and reinstalled. american cancelled 50 flights yesterday and 44 more today. >>> cbs money watch time now on a friday morning. crunching jobs numbers and a status update on a record number of facebook users. ashley morrison is here. >> reporter: asian markets edged up this morning after the bank of japan announced no change in the country's key interest rate. nikkei rose half a
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good morning, steven. >> good morning. >> is this great news, good news, not so much news? what is this? >> probably doing a little jig over at the white house right now. there's certainly good news for the white house, coming off a bad debate. these are pretty good numbers. the fact that for the first time in over 40 months we now have an unemployment rate less than 8%. one interesting thing about these numbers that people might be a little confused about, officially the economy gained about 115,000, 120,000 jobs, which is so-so. you look at this other survey that we do of households and that found a gigantic gain in jobs something like 750,000 or 800,000. as economists, we're trying to figure out why the big discrepancy in these two numbers. the reason we call it the headline number, the unemployment rate, that will be the headline tomorrow, unemployment less than 8%. >> i have to ask you this. jack welch, conservative guy, came out and said unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything. is there any reason for any of us to believe that these numbers migh
good morning, steven. >> good morning. >> is this great news, good news, not so much news? what is this? >> probably doing a little jig over at the white house right now. there's certainly good news for the white house, coming off a bad debate. these are pretty good numbers. the fact that for the first time in over 40 months we now have an unemployment rate less than 8%. one interesting thing about these numbers that people might be a little confused about, officially the...
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i'll say this for stevens. he was a brave guy. he was involved in a transition and wanted to be involved in the transition for building a new libya. you have to take some kind of risks like that. >> there is no question about that. but people knew that libya was a terrorist center. almost all of our facilities is secured by marine guards. it would be strange marine guards guarding bahamas but not in tripoli. >> so why did the administration go to the story. it was all about the video reaction in the muslim world -- let's face it an obscure youtube video that nobody knew about until after the riot started? >> i think the key question. i don't know why they went to that narrative. what is interesting the secretary of state hillary clinton stepped off that narrative herself. when she was at the united nations, also said that they knew that al-qaeda had been active in the arabian peninsula. it seems to me that the secretary of state is distancing herself from the white house was saying because if it comes out later in an investigation
i'll say this for stevens. he was a brave guy. he was involved in a transition and wanted to be involved in the transition for building a new libya. you have to take some kind of risks like that. >> there is no question about that. but people knew that libya was a terrorist center. almost all of our facilities is secured by marine guards. it would be strange marine guards guarding bahamas but not in tripoli. >> so why did the administration go to the story. it was all about the...
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one is the ongoing situation regarding the death of ambassador christopher stevens in libya. lots of vagueness about what really went on in the days leading up to this and indeed, afterwards. what is your assessment of where we are now? >> well, let me tell you what's not vague, and that is five days after, five days after what was very quickly determined by the intelligence committee as a terrorist attack, they trotted out our ambassador to the u.n. to every major news outlet saying that this was a spontaneous demonstration because of a hateful video. that's probably one of the worst things that i have ever observed in my life, and obviously, there were warnings and obviously anybody who believes that an attack with mortars and rocket-propelled grenades and a very sophisticated attack is the result of a video, i mean, it's just ridiculous. and finally, piers, it's not the video that's stoking these demonstrations. as you know, it's the radical islamists that are using the videos as a means of inflaming passion in the middle east and i'll be damned if i'm ready to abandon the
one is the ongoing situation regarding the death of ambassador christopher stevens in libya. lots of vagueness about what really went on in the days leading up to this and indeed, afterwards. what is your assessment of where we are now? >> well, let me tell you what's not vague, and that is five days after, five days after what was very quickly determined by the intelligence committee as a terrorist attack, they trotted out our ambassador to the u.n. to every major news outlet saying that...
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ambassador, chris stevens, and, three others. wood has been subpoenaed to appear at next week's house committee hearing on the attack and the rest of the witness list is not yet complete. >> gregg: extreme weather, getting ready for a dramatic drop in the temperatures here in the east. and, freeze warnings out west. meteorologist maria molina is live in the fox extreme weather center and i fell out of the chair and looked and see the high tomorrow here will be 50 degrees? >> reporter: yes. 50s across much of the northeast tomorrow and will be dropping in temperatures as we head into tomorrow and will stay cool most of next week. keep in mind you have to take the sweaters out and the jacket and you will be wearing them for a couple of days, at least. and, east of the front, it is warm in the 80s now in charlotte, atlanta and behind the front, a lot cooler. currently, 47 over in chicago, and 44 in des moines, and 45 degrees in springfield and again, a dramatic change in temperatures, ahead of the front, compared to what is behind i
ambassador, chris stevens, and, three others. wood has been subpoenaed to appear at next week's house committee hearing on the attack and the rest of the witness list is not yet complete. >> gregg: extreme weather, getting ready for a dramatic drop in the temperatures here in the east. and, freeze warnings out west. meteorologist maria molina is live in the fox extreme weather center and i fell out of the chair and looked and see the high tomorrow here will be 50 degrees? >>...
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. >>> we have the situation of the death of ambassador christopher stevens in libya. lots of vagueness about what really went on in the days leading up to this and indeed afterwards. what is your assessment of where we are now? >> what is not vague, and that is five days after what was very quickly determined by the intelligence committee as a terrorist attack, they trotted out our ambassador of the u.n. to every major news outlet saying that this was a spontaneous demonstration because of a hateful video. that's probably one of the worst things that i have ever observed in my life, and obviously there were warnings, and obviously anybody who believes in an attack with mortars and rocket hi rocket-propelled grenades, a very sophisticated attack, is the result of a video is just ridiculous. it's not the video that's stokingdemonstrations, it's the iraqis who are using these videos, and i'll be damned if i'm going to vacate the freedom of speech because of muhammad. >> are you in favor of her resigning? >> no, she was shooting the messenger. she was told to do that. i b
. >>> we have the situation of the death of ambassador christopher stevens in libya. lots of vagueness about what really went on in the days leading up to this and indeed afterwards. what is your assessment of where we are now? >> what is not vague, and that is five days after what was very quickly determined by the intelligence committee as a terrorist attack, they trotted out our ambassador of the u.n. to every major news outlet saying that this was a spontaneous demonstration...
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stevens had a home in the bay area. the memorial will be held october 16th in the rotunda at san francisco's city hall. it will be open to the public and set to start at 4:30 p.m.. >>> california highway patrol says, auto -- auto thefts have gone down in the state for the sixth year in a row, dropped 1.3% during the past year and they say due to enforcement, education and using high-tech advancements that can help deter or catch auto thieves we also have increased technology, license plate reader technology, lojack technology and our bait vehicle technology where we place cars in places where we want them to be stolen. >> interesting the chp says of the more than 156,000 sleeks reported stolen last year, nearly 85% were recovered. still the economic cost to californians last year about a billion dollars. >>> yesterday, whow! really hot then -- whoa! really hot then sea breezes and the whole picture change. >> already feeling the affects of the cool down as we head out this morning, we have low clouds and fog, marine lay
stevens had a home in the bay area. the memorial will be held october 16th in the rotunda at san francisco's city hall. it will be open to the public and set to start at 4:30 p.m.. >>> california highway patrol says, auto -- auto thefts have gone down in the state for the sixth year in a row, dropped 1.3% during the past year and they say due to enforcement, education and using high-tech advancements that can help deter or catch auto thieves we also have increased technology, license...
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that attack killed ambassador stevens and three other americans. molly henneberg is live in washington. what did ambassador rice say and why does congressman king believe she should step down? >> reporter: ambassador rice went on sunday talk show two weeks ago and called the attack in libya a spontaneous reaction to an anti-muslim video. congressman king said by that time there was circumstantial evidence showing this was a terrorist attack. >> either ambassador rice was deliberately misleading the american people or showed and demonstrated such a lack of knowledge and sophistication that she shouldn't hold that position. >> reporter: sources tell fox news intelligence officials knew within one day of the assault that killed ambassador stevens and three others that it was a coordinated terror attack, likely tied to al-qaeda. >> heather: molly, ambassador rice does have her defenders, what are they saying? >> reporter: the state department for one contends when she spoke she made her remarks based on best information that the obama administration ha
that attack killed ambassador stevens and three other americans. molly henneberg is live in washington. what did ambassador rice say and why does congressman king believe she should step down? >> reporter: ambassador rice went on sunday talk show two weeks ago and called the attack in libya a spontaneous reaction to an anti-muslim video. congressman king said by that time there was circumstantial evidence showing this was a terrorist attack. >> either ambassador rice was...
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this is three weeks after four americans, including the ambassador, chris stevens, two navy seals and a state department staffer were murdered on september 11th. we're told that safety concerns were the reason for the fbi's delay and need for proper military protection of that team in the event of a possible, another attack. leland vittert is live in jerusalem with a long delay now. what is the fbi hoping to learn there, leland? >> reporter: that is the real problem, bill. typically in a criminal investigation or something like this you want boots on the ground as soon as possible to try to sift through the clues, what kind of weapons did these people use? possibly how can you trace those weapons back to who was funding or planning this wrags? what -- operation. what clues did the attackers themselves leave behind to provide evidence to go back and track this attack back? the problem with the fbi in three weeks since the attack on consulate on 9/11, a number of people have been through there, to news crews to on lookers inside benghazi. we know there were sensitive documents seen insi
this is three weeks after four americans, including the ambassador, chris stevens, two navy seals and a state department staffer were murdered on september 11th. we're told that safety concerns were the reason for the fbi's delay and need for proper military protection of that team in the event of a possible, another attack. leland vittert is live in jerusalem with a long delay now. what is the fbi hoping to learn there, leland? >> reporter: that is the real problem, bill. typically in a...
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chris stevens love his work. he took pride in the country he served anti sought dignity in the people that he met. two weeks ago, he traveled to establish a new cultural center and build a hospital. that is when the compound came under attack, along with three of his colleagues, chris was killed in the city that he helped to save. he was 52 years old. a study this story because chris stevens embody the best of america. like his fellow foreign service officers, he built divisions -- he built bridges across oceans. he is deeply invested in the vision that the united nations represents. he acted with humility, but he also stood up for a set of principles. a belief that individuals should be free to determine their own destiny and live with liberty, and dignity, justice, and opportunities. the attacks on the civilians in benghazi were attacks on america. we are grateful for the assistance we receive from the libyan government and from the libyan people. there should be no doubt that we will be relentless in tracking
chris stevens love his work. he took pride in the country he served anti sought dignity in the people that he met. two weeks ago, he traveled to establish a new cultural center and build a hospital. that is when the compound came under attack, along with three of his colleagues, chris was killed in the city that he helped to save. he was 52 years old. a study this story because chris stevens embody the best of america. like his fellow foreign service officers, he built divisions -- he built...
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the attack goes on for hours, and there were warnings, as you know, because cnn put out part of chris stevens' diary. things are going south all over the world. look at this morning in iraq. we've got a miserable failure in iraq. it's unraveling. afghanistan, more insider killings, because this president doesn't believe in american exceptionalism and keeps telling people we're winning. finally he said something about syria, but now we're going to give them communications equipment, which does very well against attack airplanes and helicopters and artillery and tanks. >> you're being sarcastic here. you want to give more? >> we need to arm them. the iranians have admitted that they're on the ground. russians arms are falling in. iranian planes are flying over iraq as we speak. >> do you think there's a conflict? do you think we need to add to it? >> i think the role of america is to lead, not follow. by the way, we blame it on the video, and it shows the absolute inept tud and ignorance of the realities. >> they were blaming the protests against the american embassy and the deaths, in fact --
the attack goes on for hours, and there were warnings, as you know, because cnn put out part of chris stevens' diary. things are going south all over the world. look at this morning in iraq. we've got a miserable failure in iraq. it's unraveling. afghanistan, more insider killings, because this president doesn't believe in american exceptionalism and keeps telling people we're winning. finally he said something about syria, but now we're going to give them communications equipment, which does...
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in libya, an assault on the consulate resulted in the death of the american ambassador christopher stevens and three others. these images echo the worst -- the recall those moments in 1979 with the taking of american hostages at the embassy in iran. u.s. taxpayers gave an enormous $1.6 billion to egypt, which is now run by a former member of the muslim brotherhood. should the u.s. give up foreign aid to these nations, mr. sadler? >> no. not now, we have a fledgling government being formed a. with egypt withholding funds, the editorial board agreed is time for us to stop the old on that aid. it is in our best interests to stay involved. if we do not stay involved, russia, china, and other countries with in this world will i do not think to cut off the aid. >> mr. cruz? >> this is another area of clear disagreement. we should not be funding those who are contrary to our interest. the only justification for continuing that aid or any portion of it is it to protect national security interests of the united states. we should use that aid as extensive leverage to protect national security intere
in libya, an assault on the consulate resulted in the death of the american ambassador christopher stevens and three others. these images echo the worst -- the recall those moments in 1979 with the taking of american hostages at the embassy in iran. u.s. taxpayers gave an enormous $1.6 billion to egypt, which is now run by a former member of the muslim brotherhood. should the u.s. give up foreign aid to these nations, mr. sadler? >> no. not now, we have a fledgling government being formed...
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you've gone on the recording saying ambassador stevens suffered the consequences, in your words, of a lazy, detached president. that's tough criticism out there. >> that's right. >> why do you stand by that? >> well, look, what we have is a situation all over the middle east, and you showed some clips of what's happening in pakistan. we have -- we have taken a difficult situation and turned it into a disaster, because we have a president that thought he was somehow going to charm that part of the world into loving america. what he's done is increased the antagonism toward america there by having a failed foreign policy. and harry truman used to say, "the buck stops here" talking about the presidency. and the buck should stop at the president's desk. he has created that climate. he has created the anti-american sentiment. and he was the one that was trying to sell us a bill of goods that al-qaeda no longer -- al-qaeda no longer had any strength, that terrorism had been defeated in the middle east. this president has failed to do what he was trying to convince us he had done. that's why
you've gone on the recording saying ambassador stevens suffered the consequences, in your words, of a lazy, detached president. that's tough criticism out there. >> that's right. >> why do you stand by that? >> well, look, what we have is a situation all over the middle east, and you showed some clips of what's happening in pakistan. we have -- we have taken a difficult situation and turned it into a disaster, because we have a president that thought he was somehow going to...
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and look at the communiques that came from ambassador stevens. look what wa -- what was transpiring in libya. we have to realize this is a terrorist attack. this an act of war. this is not something that was carried out by some video watching benghazi-based community organizer that said let's bow flash mob the consulate in benghazi. this was a terrorist attack. bill: do you think it stops with susan rice? or does it go to the secretary of state hillary clinton or beyond that? >> this is why we need an independent council and we need the investigations to begin immediately. i think this is an issue -- benghazi-gate is the right term for this. this is very, very serious. probably more serious than watergate. and to call this a response to a video when it was obviously a terrorist attack -- and when you read some of the documentation on this, and you know that there has been other sites and locations that have bind attack in libya, when you know that the libyan government felt there was something getting ready to transpire. when you know a get know
and look at the communiques that came from ambassador stevens. look what wa -- what was transpiring in libya. we have to realize this is a terrorist attack. this an act of war. this is not something that was carried out by some video watching benghazi-based community organizer that said let's bow flash mob the consulate in benghazi. this was a terrorist attack. bill: do you think it stops with susan rice? or does it go to the secretary of state hillary clinton or beyond that? >> this is...